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isPermaLink="false">http://www.raproject.com/articles/the-problem-with-automated-methods-of-appreciation/#comment-2667</guid> <description>[...] good to see that people remember you, doesn&#8217;t it? But what if you knew this is part of an automatic recognition process? Would it still be enjoyable to [...] </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] good to see that people remember you, doesn&#8217;t it? But what if you knew this is part of an automatic recognition process? Would it still be enjoyable to [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: 10 Simple Ways to Show Reader Appreciation &#187; Reader Appreciation Project</title><link>http://socialimprove.com/blog/the-problem-with-automated-methods-of-appreciation#comment-2666</link> <dc:creator>10 Simple Ways to Show Reader Appreciation &#187; Reader Appreciation Project</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 10:02:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raproject.com/articles/the-problem-with-automated-methods-of-appreciation/#comment-2666</guid> <description>[...] one of the problems with automated methods of appreciation is that the e-mails seem so impersonal to the first-time commenter. And that&#8217;s probably [...] </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] one of the problems with automated methods of appreciation is that the e-mails seem so impersonal to the first-time commenter. And that&#8217;s probably [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ronald Huereca</title><link>http://socialimprove.com/blog/the-problem-with-automated-methods-of-appreciation#comment-2665</link> <dc:creator>Ronald Huereca</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 04:20:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raproject.com/articles/the-problem-with-automated-methods-of-appreciation/#comment-2665</guid> <description>I just came across an article regarding someone suing major companies &lt;a href=&quot;http://informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=201802746&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;over automated e-mails&lt;/a&gt;.  It&#039;s a frivolous lawsuit, but just one of the dangers I suppose of automation.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just came across an article regarding someone suing major companies <a
href="http://informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=201802746" rel="nofollow">over automated e-mails</a>.  It&#8217;s a frivolous lawsuit, but just one of the dangers I suppose of automation.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bes Zain</title><link>http://socialimprove.com/blog/the-problem-with-automated-methods-of-appreciation#comment-2664</link> <dc:creator>Bes Zain</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 20:40:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raproject.com/articles/the-problem-with-automated-methods-of-appreciation/#comment-2664</guid> <description>I personally prefer personal replies and e-mails to everyone. I am not sure why the readers, or others, who are one of the main reasons one earns money, tend to be given automated batch processing priorities so that appreciating them becomes automated.Also, I write and respond to over 200 e-mails daily [average from the last 7 days], and it takes me a maximum of 1-1.5 hours. Therefore, it boils down to whether or not a person wishes to spend more time promoting their own blog or money or both or spending time communicating with others sincerely.One important thing: acknowledging comments and simply saying thank you or responding to comments just to fulfill an obligation to respond to all comments does not work. Very few, probably less than a 100 blogs that I have seen so far,  really communicate with all of their readers. The bigger people grow, the more they focus on other things.Also, Chris, I return comments on around 5 different blogs, totaling more than 300-400 daily, and they also take around 1-2 hours. I guess it boils down to where one would like to put their priority in. For me, online and on any site, one of the top two priorities that I do not want affected is the content and my communication with readers.I am against automated methods and messages, including the one that Chris talked about, unless the automated method saves me time by allowing me to write personal, unique messages faster. Otherwise, such automated methods are simply assembly lines classifying all customers and readers into one, the same way many offline businesses do. I am glad slowly more and more people are starting to realize such trends online, specially with the help of RA Project. Automated methods are how a further classification of blogs will come down to: people who really want to appreciate and actually do appreciate each and every reader, and people who appreciate since showing appreciation will result in more attention and thus automated methods can help save time in the appreciation arena while one focuses on other things that are considered, by that person or entity, to be more important than appreciation and readers.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally prefer personal replies and e-mails to everyone. I am not sure why the readers, or others, who are one of the main reasons one earns money, tend to be given automated batch processing priorities so that appreciating them becomes automated.</p><p>Also, I write and respond to over 200 e-mails daily [average from the last 7 days], and it takes me a maximum of 1-1.5 hours. Therefore, it boils down to whether or not a person wishes to spend more time promoting their own blog or money or both or spending time communicating with others sincerely.</p><p>One important thing: acknowledging comments and simply saying thank you or responding to comments just to fulfill an obligation to respond to all comments does not work. Very few, probably less than a 100 blogs that I have seen so far,  really communicate with all of their readers. The bigger people grow, the more they focus on other things.</p><p>Also, Chris, I return comments on around 5 different blogs, totaling more than 300-400 daily, and they also take around 1-2 hours. I guess it boils down to where one would like to put their priority in. For me, online and on any site, one of the top two priorities that I do not want affected is the content and my communication with readers.</p><p>I am against automated methods and messages, including the one that Chris talked about, unless the automated method saves me time by allowing me to write personal, unique messages faster. Otherwise, such automated methods are simply assembly lines classifying all customers and readers into one, the same way many offline businesses do. I am glad slowly more and more people are starting to realize such trends online, specially with the help of RA Project. Automated methods are how a further classification of blogs will come down to: people who really want to appreciate and actually do appreciate each and every reader, and people who appreciate since showing appreciation will result in more attention and thus automated methods can help save time in the appreciation arena while one focuses on other things that are considered, by that person or entity, to be more important than appreciation and readers.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ronald Huereca</title><link>http://socialimprove.com/blog/the-problem-with-automated-methods-of-appreciation#comment-2663</link> <dc:creator>Ronald Huereca</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 05:42:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raproject.com/articles/the-problem-with-automated-methods-of-appreciation/#comment-2663</guid> <description>Rory,
If I do e-mail a commenter, it&#039;s definitely not an automated response.  Hopefully I never get &quot;famous&quot; enough to have to automate my email messages.Andrew,
I agree completely.  The only time I have ever e-mailed commenters is when I felt that private correspondence would serve the reader better than public correspondence.  Sometimes I would do both since more than often the e-mail I send ends up in the spam box. :(Chris,
E-mailing and commenting would definitely be difficult, even on a lightly commented blog.  I prefer Alister Cameron&#039;s approach mentioned in the post above where he adds a little personalization to the e-mails he sends to first time commenters.Simonne,
More often than not, this is the approach I take.  For support questions, however, most of that is done behind the scenes.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rory,<br
/> If I do e-mail a commenter, it&#8217;s definitely not an automated response.  Hopefully I never get &#8220;famous&#8221; enough to have to automate my email messages.</p><p>Andrew,<br
/> I agree completely.  The only time I have ever e-mailed commenters is when I felt that private correspondence would serve the reader better than public correspondence.  Sometimes I would do both since more than often the e-mail I send ends up in the spam box. <img
src='http://socialimprove.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>Chris,<br
/> E-mailing and commenting would definitely be difficult, even on a lightly commented blog.  I prefer Alister Cameron&#8217;s approach mentioned in the post above where he adds a little personalization to the e-mails he sends to first time commenters.</p><p>Simonne,<br
/> More often than not, this is the approach I take.  For support questions, however, most of that is done behind the scenes.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Simonne</title><link>http://socialimprove.com/blog/the-problem-with-automated-methods-of-appreciation#comment-2662</link> <dc:creator>Simonne</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 13:50:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raproject.com/articles/the-problem-with-automated-methods-of-appreciation/#comment-2662</guid> <description>I&#039;d rather answer the comments directly on my blog. It works because I have only a few commenters. I know when somebody comments for the first time, so I can say welcome. As a reader and a commenter, I&#039;m not very fond of e-mails from blogs where I comment. Not to mention that some bloggers push this &quot;kindness&quot; to the extreme, offering to help me make money, be happy... and everything is &quot;to your success&quot;... a few times a week.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d rather answer the comments directly on my blog. It works because I have only a few commenters. I know when somebody comments for the first time, so I can say welcome. As a reader and a commenter, I&#8217;m not very fond of e-mails from blogs where I comment. Not to mention that some bloggers push this &#8220;kindness&#8221; to the extreme, offering to help me make money, be happy&#8230; and everything is &#8220;to your success&#8221;&#8230; a few times a week.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chris Garrett</title><link>http://socialimprove.com/blog/the-problem-with-automated-methods-of-appreciation#comment-2661</link> <dc:creator>Chris Garrett</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 08:34:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raproject.com/articles/the-problem-with-automated-methods-of-appreciation/#comment-2661</guid> <description>I too prefer a hand written email rather than an automated one and I strive to reply to every comment on my blog personally. I see it as a confirmation their comment has worked and been accepted, like the customer service emails you get from Amazon.com. Relish only emails brand new commenters. Ideally I would want a method to identify those people so I could email them personally. On my blog there are so many comments it would be unworkable to both reply in the comments and personally email every commenter, and that would also be a real turn off as some people return every day to comment.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too prefer a hand written email rather than an automated one and I strive to reply to every comment on my blog personally. I see it as a confirmation their comment has worked and been accepted, like the customer service emails you get from Amazon.com. Relish only emails brand new commenters. Ideally I would want a method to identify those people so I could email them personally. On my blog there are so many comments it would be unworkable to both reply in the comments and personally email every commenter, and that would also be a real turn off as some people return every day to comment.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Andrew</title><link>http://socialimprove.com/blog/the-problem-with-automated-methods-of-appreciation#comment-2660</link> <dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 07:14:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raproject.com/articles/the-problem-with-automated-methods-of-appreciation/#comment-2660</guid> <description>Ronald, I see absolutely nothing wrong with continuing a conversation by e-mail if it would be more appropriate to do that, or with e-mailing about something different, but these two things pre-suppose either an existing relationship (perhaps by virtue of having already had &#039;on-blog&#039; conversations).An example, I have come to this post and commented (It wasn&#039;t the first time but in theory it could&#039;ve been). You have followed up with a further question, i.e. what do you think about it in this light?Now this is clearly an appropriate &#039;on-blog&#039; discussion and doesn&#039;t need an e-mail. As Rory says, I don&#039;t see what purpose an e-mail would serve for &lt;strong&gt;me&lt;/strong&gt;, the reader. Especially when there are good things like comment subscription.In other cases you might be writing about a product you have an issue with that someone has produced. You want my opinion on it, or possibly just want to converse on it more specifically, but don&#039;t want to publish the product name on the blog. Well then e-mail away. I certainly see no issue with that.Ultimately I agree with Rory, I just go one e-mail further. If a first contact e-mail is sent without a specific reason why e-mail contact is needed then I see little benefit. I don&#039;t see the need to say thanks for commenting when that could be said &#039;on-blog&#039; as part of a response.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ronald, I see absolutely nothing wrong with continuing a conversation by e-mail if it would be more appropriate to do that, or with e-mailing about something different, but these two things pre-suppose either an existing relationship (perhaps by virtue of having already had &#8216;on-blog&#8217; conversations).</p><p>An example, I have come to this post and commented (It wasn&#8217;t the first time but in theory it could&#8217;ve been). You have followed up with a further question, i.e. what do you think about it in this light?</p><p>Now this is clearly an appropriate &#8216;on-blog&#8217; discussion and doesn&#8217;t need an e-mail. As Rory says, I don&#8217;t see what purpose an e-mail would serve for <strong>me</strong>, the reader. Especially when there are good things like comment subscription.</p><p>In other cases you might be writing about a product you have an issue with that someone has produced. You want my opinion on it, or possibly just want to converse on it more specifically, but don&#8217;t want to publish the product name on the blog. Well then e-mail away. I certainly see no issue with that.</p><p>Ultimately I agree with Rory, I just go one e-mail further. If a first contact e-mail is sent without a specific reason why e-mail contact is needed then I see little benefit. I don&#8217;t see the need to say thanks for commenting when that could be said &#8216;on-blog&#8217; as part of a response.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rory</title><link>http://socialimprove.com/blog/the-problem-with-automated-methods-of-appreciation#comment-2659</link> <dc:creator>Rory</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 06:58:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raproject.com/articles/the-problem-with-automated-methods-of-appreciation/#comment-2659</guid> <description>We often hear that the focus has to be about the &lt;em&gt;reader&lt;/em&gt; not about the &lt;em&gt;author&lt;/em&gt;. It strikes me that automated e-mail are for the &lt;em&gt;author&#039;s&lt;/em&gt; convenience, and not about the reader&#039;s experience.Though well-intentioned, the automated e-mail intends to draw the reader back because they are personally cared about. It&#039;s more likely that an authentic personal e-mail would reach further than an automated response - although that might be difficult when a blog gets high traffic.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We often hear that the focus has to be about the <em>reader</em> not about the <em>author</em>. It strikes me that automated e-mail are for the <em>author&#8217;s</em> convenience, and not about the reader&#8217;s experience.</p><p>Though well-intentioned, the automated e-mail intends to draw the reader back because they are personally cared about. It&#8217;s more likely that an authentic personal e-mail would reach further than an automated response &#8211; although that might be difficult when a blog gets high traffic.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ronald Huereca</title><link>http://socialimprove.com/blog/the-problem-with-automated-methods-of-appreciation#comment-2658</link> <dc:creator>Ronald Huereca</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 05:42:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raproject.com/articles/the-problem-with-automated-methods-of-appreciation/#comment-2658</guid> <description>Andrew,Perhaps a little off-topic, but you mentioned receiving e-mails from a comment.  As a blogger, I have access to all of the e-mail addresses of anybody who ever commented here.  Sometimes I use that information to e-mail that commenter directly.  Do you see anything wrong with that?  Or, is this only problematic perhaps when the correspondence is automated?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew,</p><p>Perhaps a little off-topic, but you mentioned receiving e-mails from a comment.  As a blogger, I have access to all of the e-mail addresses of anybody who ever commented here.  Sometimes I use that information to e-mail that commenter directly.  Do you see anything wrong with that?  Or, is this only problematic perhaps when the correspondence is automated?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ronald Huereca</title><link>http://socialimprove.com/blog/the-problem-with-automated-methods-of-appreciation#comment-2657</link> <dc:creator>Ronald Huereca</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 05:14:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raproject.com/articles/the-problem-with-automated-methods-of-appreciation/#comment-2657</guid> <description>Thanks Andrew for your comment.  (This comment was automatically generated by the Ronalfy Auto-Commenter v3.1.0.4).Okay, I&#039;m just kidding about the auto-commenter (good idea, no?).  I totally agree about &#039;off-blog&#039; conversations.  I typically e-mail commenters on support issues or other issues if I don&#039;t want the conversation public.  Otherwise, as you have stated, a on-blog response is perfectly acceptable and will also show others publicly that you do indeed take the time to respond to others.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Andrew for your comment.  (This comment was automatically generated by the Ronalfy Auto-Commenter v3.1.0.4).</p><p>Okay, I&#8217;m just kidding about the auto-commenter (good idea, no?).  I totally agree about &#8216;off-blog&#8217; conversations.  I typically e-mail commenters on support issues or other issues if I don&#8217;t want the conversation public.  Otherwise, as you have stated, a on-blog response is perfectly acceptable and will also show others publicly that you do indeed take the time to respond to others.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Andrew</title><link>http://socialimprove.com/blog/the-problem-with-automated-methods-of-appreciation#comment-2656</link> <dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 05:10:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raproject.com/articles/the-problem-with-automated-methods-of-appreciation/#comment-2656</guid> <description>Personally I am not keen on getting e-mails as a matter of course. Taking a conversation &#039;off-blog&#039; is fine if you want to continue part of it privately but an &#039;on-blog&#039; response is better otherwise.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I am not keen on getting e-mails as a matter of course. Taking a conversation &#8216;off-blog&#8217; is fine if you want to continue part of it privately but an &#8216;on-blog&#8217; response is better otherwise.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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